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page 147 of 560 of New Science

He does entertain an intersting thought expirement as to how our neolithic ancestors were “sunk in the senses, numbed by passions, and buried in their bodies.” Still he has a hard time imagining their way of thinking to have come up with pagan thinking (as opposed to Christian) – what will people in 8000 years think of us?

page 144 of 560 of New Science

The attitude of westeners towards other “lesser” cultures is wholly evident here. He says the first peoples of the pagans lacked the power of reason. Well, no they didn’t, they just didn’t have the knowledge we do, or their facts were different than ours. To say they lacked reason would mean they wouldn’t even be able to form a civilization.

page 136 of 560 of New Science

“We may say, then, that the poets were the sense of mankind, and the philosophers the intellect,” – Aristotle, “Nothing is found in the intellect which was not found first in the senses,”. And so when we try to understand something, we first need to have an impression of it (such as fear of lightning creating Zeus, for example).

page 91 of 560 of New Science

So he’s saying that these early nations (full of ignorant peoples)could not be founded without religion nor grow without virtue. And when two communities come in contact they could either be like giants to each other (grotesque) or they could see how they have uniform ideas rising up independtly that tie them together (in a basic humanity).

page 88 of 560 of New Science

Polybius, “If the world had philosophers, it would not need religions.”

Odd, Vico then goes on to say that “Whenever man is sunk in ignorance, he makes himself the measure of the universe” which I do agree with, yet he is holding onto religion and its associaed myths and “ignorance” as being the opposite of ignorance.

page 87 of 560 of New Science

On Thomas Hobbes he disagress with Levithian and the social contract theory since he believes religion, not materialism is what drives communities towards cohesion and unity. He’s applying the same myths as power over the ignortant whereas Hobbs (as I understand it in this slice) is allowing eduction (reason) to be the driving force.

page 86 of 560 of New Science

Here we get more into wht myth is driving at when he talks of the ancient giants. He equates these giants to how Caesar described the Germans as being giant but we know Caesar understood the use of exaggeration to heighten his victories. And in 172 he says how the giants were grotesque while the Jews were normal buid: one wonders how these so-called giants felt about all this?